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Vanguard Creed AR-V air problem

I have a Vanguard Creed AR-V, it shoots abnormally loud, it sounded like a cannon, everyone around the paintball site now call me the dude with a mini cannon. I have had a 140 pod through it on about a 1k fill 3k air bottle,so about a pod per 500 psi, when it reaches about 500 psi, it started shooting low as expected like other air tank. I'm not too sure if this is normal.
 

funder

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Mine is loud as we'll it never used to be.
I'm using the stock barrel as we'll
I was told by foot that mine was unbalanced n that's why it was loud
 

funder

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Mine is loud as we'll it never used to be.
I'm using the stock barrel as we'll
I was told by foot that mine was unbalanced n that's why it was loud
 

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How to Adjust Your Velocity

Step 1. DE-PRESSURIZE! That means winding your LPR screw all the way out. (Anti clockwise)

Step 2. Turn in your HPR screw (Velocity Screw) ALL THE WAY IN. (Clockwise)
  • High Pressure Tank: 1 full turn OUT (Anti clockwise)
  • Low Pressure Tank: 1-1/4 full turns OUT (Anti clockwise)

Step 3. Turn in your LPR Screw until around flush. This should now be shooting around 260-280fps.

Step 4. Play with the LPR Screw until you achieve your wanted FPS.

 
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MeDiC

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I believe there may be a mis-print on that manual...

The way I understand it, adjusting the LPR changes the pressure through the solenoid, how hard the rammer hits the valve, fine tuning with the HPR will adjust the air pressure behind the ball with more control, therefore the velocity.

Perhaps @foot could shed some light here ?
 

MadmanK

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I have a creed; and have always setup as per the manual (i.e. adjusting the LPR for fine tuning the velocity); work's on mine. In fact I have never adjusted the HPR other than the 1 full turn out. So I'm interested in foot's opinion too.

As to OP's question, mine runs pretty quiet so I hope someone else can shed some light on your particular problem; if it ins't a tuning/balance issue
 

BayBlade

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i always use the LPR too, in the same way the manual say to.

i would think you have the lpr is too low and the hpr is too high.
 

funder

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i always use the LPR too, in the same way the manual say to.

i would think you have the lpr is too low and the hpr is too high.
If the lpr is to low the gun wont fire.
The hpr carnt go more than 2 turns or it does nothing.
 

foot

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I have a Vanguard Creed AR-V, it shoots abnormally loud, it sounded like a cannon, everyone around the paintball site now call me the dude with a mini cannon. I have had a 140 pod through it on about a 1k fill 3k air bottle,so about a pod per 500 psi, when it reaches about 500 psi, it started shooting low as expected like other air tank. I'm not too sure if this is normal.
As mentioned, your regs look like they are unballanced and or need servicing.
What is your dwell set to?



I believe there may be a mis-print on that manual...

The way I understand it, adjusting the LPR changes the pressure through the solenoid, how hard the rammer hits the valve, fine tuning with the HPR will adjust the air pressure behind the ball with more control, therefore the velocity.

Perhaps @foot could shed some light here ?
Because of the nature of the HPR theres only a small amount of adjustment before the reg becomes unbalanced.
Rule of thumb is to set the HPR 1-1.5 turns out from flush, then dial in via the LPR until the correct fps is achieved.

Most HPR errors are made when the unit isnt correctly set prior to installation.
If you take the HPR core out and screw in the adjuster screw all the way you will see the shim stack core rise, if you now install the core into the gun it will effect how the regs ballance and creat issues.
With the core out you should wind the adjuster in untill the shim stack core rises and is FLUSH with the core body, then install.

I have a creed; and have always setup as per the manual (i.e. adjusting the LPR for fine tuning the velocity); work's on mine. In fact I have never adjusted the HPR other than the 1 full turn out. So I'm interested in foot's opinion too.

As to OP's question, mine runs pretty quiet so I hope someone else can shed some light on your particular problem; if it ins't a tuning/balance issue
I would say you are doing everything correctly, You can up your dwell and lower your LPR for a smoother shot too, you will trade off with so efficency but nothing major.
 
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