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Ohmygob_88

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I'm selling my air system and looking for suggestions on the best courier service to use to send such an item please!!! Sending from Dorset to Abercynon
 

Tom

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brab

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Maybe a silly question, is this a concern for insurance reasons or because they scan parcels (do they?) and it might be returned?
 

Tom

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Maybe a silly question, is this a concern for insurance reasons or because they scan parcels (do they?) and it might be returned?
It's the law:

Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations 2009 (CDG Regs)
Accord européen relatif au transport international des marchandises dangereuses par route, known as ADR
EU Transportable Pressure Equipment Directive.

Any carrier has to comply with the above laws and directives. When you post an item it depends on the method used as to where it fits into the regulations, and the carrier may have a choice of options to carry (and ensure that the method you buy is carried by land/air/sea legally) or their systems may not guarantee your package doesn't go via an illegal or dangerous method

Royal Mail do X-ray everything, so you're more likely to get caught doing it the wrong way - and have goods destroyed, get a fine etc

Insurance affects the outcome when a package goes missing, but does not protect against using a prohibited method

Blame the people who spent years avoiding declarations by just saying 'sporting goods' then getting caught posting pressurised air cylinders get ended up in air mail
(Even inland)
 

brab

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I can see that it would be a risk with pressurised cylinders. Is the same policy in force for unpressurised - ie reg removed? Or do they have no way of knowing from looking at the x-ray and treat them the same?

Also, please excuse my ignorance, but is there any reason, other than hassle, that regs are kept (or not) for postage.

Ie scuba tanks are never emptied and left open to prevent moisture getting in, resulting in rust. Any similar situation with PB - or is aluminum and fiber immune to that?
 

Tom

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I can see that it would be a risk with pressurised cylinders.
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Is the same policy in force for unpressurised - ie reg removed? Or do they have no way of knowing from looking at the x-ray and treat them the same?

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Also, please excuse my ignorance, but is there any reason, other than hassle, that regs are kept (or not) for postage.

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Ie scuba tanks are never emptied and left open to prevent moisture getting in, resulting in rust. Any similar situation with PB - or is aluminum and fiber immune to that?
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Previously cylinders could be sent depressurised - but there are people who were not sensible and cylinders have been posted with high pressure air
Regulations were revised recently to be stricter (on all carriage of goods) and all carriers set their prohibited & restricted terms appropriately
Wording is commonly about a 'pressure vessel' and therefore becomes the fact that it is a cylinder and not whether it is actually pressurised

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When removing & replacing a regular there is the risk of damaging threads, more risk of damage if it is thread locked
When it's refitted it may or may not be done properly

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There is a greater risk from damp to scuba cylinders for the obvious reasons, in general people prefer to leave at least a small amount of pressure to keep the nipple sealed
You know it's sealed if it's under pressure, you don't know if it's not under pressure.
But we dont have a real rust risk
 
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BikerDon

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I've always went with "MyHermes" when posting or receiving air cylinders, never had a problem as always declared whats inside it.
I've just been on the myHermes website to look into sending a cylinder.

Under the prohibited items list it includes
"Pressurised Containers - Such oxygen tanks or Fire Extinguishers"

Does that mean it's OK to send a cylinder that is empty?