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Discussion in 'Tech Troubles' started by mmf187, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. mmf187 Member

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    Right guys and gals

    I own a DM11. Bought it off here actually and love it. However, it's currently got the air efficiency of a Tshirt cannon

    Getting 140pot off of 1k of air.

    I serviced the LPR today and it's was caked in old grease and dirt. Also had 11 small shims instead of 9. So took it back to stock and put the extra 2 in my tool box for safe keeping. Changed the ref seat as well as that was quite dented from the piston.

    It's currently set at factory, 18dwell and 4 turns out on the LPR. Hpr is 4 1/4 turns giving around 285fp but is still only giving 140 per 1k

    There are no leaks that I can here. Only difference with the gun is that I had my guerilla bottle tested last month.

    So. What you guys think? Being an old gun is the LPR too high? Could it be the hyper reg needs cleaning also as that was my next job.

    Really don't know what to do with it.
     
  2. A.B London E.C.I 2008 retired

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    As a start I would write your current settings down and then return all to stock as detailed in the manual. The DM is a low pressure marker that can be effected by how much or little grease is on it. It also is a balance between whether you want a low pressure shot or better efficiency- but don't be expecting poppet gun efficiency.

    Also you're starting at 1000psi, effectively you're very close to the markers minimum operating pressure so you're going to find it will only operate up to that point and then you'll have problems whereas if you had 2000 and shot it till you had 1000 you'll get far more shots.

    There are plenty of DM tinkerers that will tell you all the witchcraft out there but if you want your DM to be reliable, soft on paint and as reasonably efficient as possible follow the recommendations in the manual including setting the lpr, YouTube has a video by pbtech on tuning a DM which I would recommend.

    Just as a slight backup to the above, I have shot a dm4, 8 and 14 my 14 will comfortably shoot a loader and 5 pods on a 3k fill with a very soft shot.
     
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    Sorry when I wrote I got 140 off of 1k. I meant 1k only fired 140, the tanks had about 4K of air in it.

    That was with stock setting. Dye manual says all the way in give 10psi and every 360 out will give 15psi so 4 turns sits it at factory 75psi.

    Now I know with tinkering and barrel matching I can up the efficiency, but with what I'm currently getting. I can only expect 4.5 pods of a 4.5k fill

    Just seems way too low. I've seen the techpb vid where he efficiency tests an 11 and it gets 7.5 pods off a 4.5k with stock settings and no barrel match.
     
  5. EELZ never a trading complaint

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    What size is your air tank ?
     
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    4.5k 68cu I think. Guerilla air.
     
  7. Banil Jaguars

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    Would be interesting to see what the pressures actually are compared to the rule of thumb.

    Does anyone know where to get a pressure tester?

    Also what are you trying to achieve smoothness or efficiency?
     
  8. mmf187 Member

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    I play walk ons and big games like paint fest and nvs so efficiency for me is king. I'd be happy however if I could get 6 and a hopper. I'm not expecting miracle but 1 pot per 1k seems rediculous.
     
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    Stole this from another forum
     
  10. mmf187 Member

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    Been ages since I've been on here.

    Cheers for that. Will set it up and go down the chrono with some old paint at the next walk on I get play.
     

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