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  1. Ali Amer Regular Baller

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    currently im playing as back but i would like to try different positions and im going to try as a front player first. Because of this, im profoundly deaf( i know this wouldnt stop me from playing back but i keep thinking my deafness sort of limits the awareness which has severe consequences for my team-mates) and i keep getting the adrenaline feeling to go forward. So can you please provide some thoughts or advice on what should i do and what i should think about. Thanks
  2. Stephen Samurai TopCats

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    As back player you can still get a lot of opportunity to move forward, for example if your front dorito side player got shot on his way to his bunker, and then the mid/insert player bumped up to fill in, then this gives you the chance to fill where your insert player was. A lot depends on how the other team are playing as to where you need to go. If both of your snake players got shot off the break then you will need to try and fill that side of the field to stop the opposition from advancing down the field. You'll have to take some initiative and be able to read the game well enough to decide when to move, but just because you're at the back doesn't mean you have no chance to move. A lot of the time it may be up to you to finish the game when you're the last alive. Hope this helps!
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  3. Kevin Winter Platinum Member Lifetime

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    I'd always say communication was more the back players job...

    Personally, if communication is an issue, I'd rather it was my snake player - they spend a lot more time head down and crawling and work better as an "independent" player IMHO.
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  4. Ali Amer Regular Baller

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    Thanks again that was a really good piece of advice but however I'm interested in playing more independent positions, do u have another advice for that?
  5. Stephen Samurai TopCats

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    I think what Kevin said would probably be the best solution, if you played snake then this gives you a chance to get your head down and do work, and a lot of the time you'll be shooting cross-field or have the chance to glance over and see where the opposition are. If you keep your head up when you're running to the snake then you'll also be able to see where your mirror managed to get to, so you wouldn't have to rely on your team-mates telling you when they've gone. If you have an insert player behind you as well then they will be able to communicate on your behalf, by telling the others how many G's you get or even when you get shot out. but try a few different positions at training, and then let discuss with your team what worked for you and what didn't, and also what did and didn't work for your team mates - a bit of trial and error always gives good feedback!
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  7. Donk Gorrilaz

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    Our snake players may as well be deaf mate as they cant shout back as they would give away their position, they know what to do by what they see not hear.

    Back however need to hear mugging runs called, "G" count & positions to be relayed so maybe you are missing your vocation playing there?
  8. SAMUEL.D.RYAN one.man.band

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    Are you high?
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    Nope I know what I mean, you play for tigers so you know sometimes teams "lose" an opposing snake player but if they shout they will give away their position.

    You think you can't hear the other team? Are you high?
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    I've never had a situation where turning round to shout at the guy behind me would 'reveal my position'. If their team doesn't know you're in the snake then you don't need to talk to your back guy because there shouldn't be anyone shooting at you. If they know you're there then it doesn't matter if you shout to your team.

    logic
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    That's all I was pointing out to the new guy
  12. Dave284 Platinum Member

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    I have never read so much bad advice in my life.
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    I agree with Dave here ( personal opinion ) Back players are there to protect the forwards as much as poss , they do all / Most of the shouting and guide a snake player, telling him when to move up or get down /in, and where to shoot if need be, also when someone is coming down the line or down the Highway. That`s What Backers are for !! If you`ve got someone that`s deaf ? Oh this is madness !! £1500 - £2000 per person with gear , £80 - £100 per day to play per person .. all resting on that guy that can`t hear anybody.
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    I am going to be the odd one out here and say – I THINK first of all that the communication issue is only one of your voice, however there is a good chance of you SIGNALING to back players what you see.

    Having said that, I believe the snake might not be the “ideal side” for you, since you might be out of sight to “signal” something to your other players (when getting started in learning how to play), and not being able to hear all information on the field will leave you in the unknown as well. Hence I would suggest you try the Dorito side to start with and work with your team on signals that are not too intrusive during your game play, however get the message across, since we are already speaking via mail and text it’s something we can maybe address at the next training when we start putting a team together. Once that works you can start trying different positions on the field and find the one you are most happy and successful in, since in the end you want to enjoy your sport and not get jammed into a role you might not even want to be in.
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    In my opinion snake players should be able to hear the most, you are getting all the information fed to you when you are in the snake by your back players, if you cant hear that well, you wont know the g count, know if its California left/right, if someone jumped into the snake with you, ect.
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  17. Bolter something something something darkside...

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    The snake is a lonely old position when you can hear! Let alone if you cant! Id suggest back player or insert guy (midfielder if you like), That way you have a chance to signal to team mates if you need to, whereas in the snake you wont get that chance. Plus a huge benefit of being so far forward is you can often hear where this guy shooting at you is, through the bunker. In my mind I visualise where they are from the noise they are making and take a snap shot from there (being good at it is another thing entirely!). Especially true in the original snake bunkers that were an actual snake (with a tongue and all) and no nice modern knuckles to get up against and possibly get a lane on someone, just a quick snap shot based on the info I was hearing.

    Im not saying dont play the snake, chances are you are playing for fun and not a world title, so most importantly have fun! Let us know how you get on!
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