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TheMemphosProject

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Gadget,

Its the whole Travelling:Fun ratio.

Alot of my guys travel an hour or slightly more to a supair tournament. They spend an hour travelling, get to site, and have 8-10, 5 minute long games. So we have great fun for 40-50 minutes.

Lets say it took an hour to drive to, and lets say I played for an hour. Thats a 1 travel : 1 fun ratio.

I go to the warped big game. Now they put that right in the middle of the country so its a longer drive, I drive for about 2.5 hours to get there.

But I get there on Friday, get pissed, have a barbeque, wake up sunday and have 30+ games on the mega arena, have another barbeque and get pissed, then I'll wake up Sunday, probably have another barbeque and a beer or two just to wash the last night down, and then play paintball for 6 hours straight.

Thats like a 1 travel : 10 fun ratio.
These are pretty much my thoughts!
 

stongle

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If airsoft (played in woodland wearing camo) is booming.....and scenario (played in woodland wearing camo) is booming, yet sup air is shrinking......maybe it's time to consider the possibility that paintball has strayed too far from it's roots and sup air isn't the golden future of the game that many had imagined?
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Why has Tournament constantly failed to remember why nearly everyone went to play in the first place. Simulated war without the real bullets and death (and it beats getting spawn camped by 12 year olds in MW3). Furthermore, Tournament Paintball is NOT economically sustainable (in isolation), and the rot set-in when paint got sold below trade-price to the end consumer creating a false value perception. This has caused a knock on effect that creates a fracturing of the Tournament scene and decline / closure of quality events (i.e NSPL).
 
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I mean it more as a "time spent playing" ratio than fun.. but lets go with fun :p

My point being, you drive for as long as you play at most supair tournaments. You drive for far less than you play at most scenario things.
Ahdinko is correct... It is about having fun and enjoying playing ball. I still love the wood's and always will, thats where I started playing paintball. I enjoying turning up at the site, having a chat, playing ball and help building field's. You also do meet some new great friends. At the same time I do enjoy supair and the adrenaline rush you get off the break you cant beat that.

Lets not forget slipping a flashbang under the southern general's tent. Thats like 5 fun points right there.
I will let Jamie know it was you when he gets his 4am wake up call.... ;)

I think rental paintball is still going strong and as long as you have site's providing a great service they will get the customers back and new customers by word of mouth. This is where our future is, if they have a bad day don't enjoy it they will find another hobby/sport. If they turn up have a great day walk away with a big smile on their face they may come back for another day then it all spirals from there. Thats how most of us started.

Like all things you can make paintball as expensive or inexpensive as you like, but it is one of those sports that does generally have recurring cost unlike some other sports.

I dont think paintball is dead it does have a future, we are its future and we are the people selling our sport to the new future who are rentals you play ball with or when that nervous rentals who comes up for a chat.
 

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Ahdinko is correct... It is about having fun and enjoying playing ball. I still love the wood's and always will, thats where I started playing paintball. I enjoying turning up at the site, having a chat, playing ball and help building field's. You also do meet some new great friends. At the same time I do enjoy supair and the adrenaline rush you get off the break you cant beat that.



I will let Jamie know it was you when he gets his 4am wake up call.... ;)

I think rental paintball is still going strong and as long as you have site's providing a great service they will get the customers back and new customers by word of mouth. This is where our future is, if they have a bad day don't enjoy it they will find another hobby/sport. If they turn up have a great day walk away with a big smile on their face they may come back for another day then it all spirals from there. Thats how most of us started.

Like all things you can make paintball as expensive or inexpensive as you like, but it is one of those sports that does generally have recurring cost unlike some other sports.

I dont think paintball is dead it does have a future, we are its future and we are the people selling our sport to the new future who are rentals you play ball with or when that nervous rentals who comes up for a chat.
Agreed!
 

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Gadget,

Its the whole Travelling:Fun ratio.

Alot of my guys travel an hour or slightly more to a supair tournament. They spend an hour travelling, get to site, and have 8-10, 5 minute long games. So we have great fun for 40-50 minutes.

Lets say it took an hour to drive to, and lets say I played for an hour. Thats a 1 travel : 1 fun ratio.

I go to the warped big game. Now they put that right in the middle of the country so its a longer drive, I drive for about 2.5 hours to get there.

But I get there on Friday, get pissed, have a barbeque, wake up saturday and have 30+ games on the mega arena, have another barbeque and get pissed, then I'll wake up Sunday, probably have another barbeque and a beer or two just to wash the last night down, and then play paintball for 6 hours straight.

Thats like a 1 travel : 10 fun ratio.
You need a Formula5 day out! You'll get so much game time its ridiculous!
 

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Thanks guys ! You have given me food for thought !! I started out at what was the Powerball site and the team Tsunami grew from there !! Any way back to the thread !!!!! The BIG tourneys these days just don't seem to offer the prizes that they used too and WHO plays's for bragging rights ???? ONLY A TOTAL IDIOT WOULD PLAY FOR BRAGGING RIGHTS !! In the old days IF you did well in even one mill event that could see you threw the rest of the year in entry fee payments !! NOW !!?? NOTHING !! You wouldn't see any other sport where the players PUMP a lot of money in to it and get jack **** back !! The big teams and tourney organizers ( I feel ) have failed UTTERLY FAILED to deliver a format that is fast BUT not so fast that it's too fast for T.V !! And as for prices !? Guns ,masks etc etc are sky high !! I could get a Klashnikov cheaper than an Ego or a Dm !! THAT SUCKS !!
 

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Paintball equipment was never so good and reliable as today. Take an Angel from 2002 and it's price then and compare it with an Ego11, DM12 and you know what I mean.
(There were times I could buy an AK47 for approx 30€ here in Germany from the Russians leaving. They were and will be always cheaper than most of the paintball guns out there :D)
Buy an 2005 Smart Parts ION for cheap and it will outperform nearly any Highend Gun from 2002. You don't have to pay more on professional equipment as back in the days. You get good and tournament ready guns ready to go for less than 500 bucks. Same on Air Systems, Goggles, Loaders..... So this is not the problem.



I think this quote (I'm not sure if it was posted somewhere on this forum) hits the nail on his head:

"Paintball has always been a GAME.
When the industry got stars in their eyes trying to make it a sport... thats when it took a crap.
I'm over it.
I'll leave paintball to all the athletes, my wallet and I have found new games to play."
And I can second that.
We have 3 times more rentals on our fields over here than a years ago, but we can't get them into "the sport".
But why? Maybe because "the sport" has become way to sporty for those who just want to have fun? Ok, a few of them will get into woodsball. Or softair or come back as a rental but most of them will not show up again.

Just my 2 ct's

Sorry for my bad English ;)