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Oppy

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Originally posted by Equinox
Maybey so, but i think the point people are trying to make here is that Air is far supperior to CO2, and siriuzbizzness should do some local research in his area to see if he has any access to air fills..
Indeedy, first thing to do before deciding, find out what refills you can get and where. No point getting air or CO2 for that matter if you cant get a refill, nothing more frustrating! :mad:

but if the option is available for air refills, go for air - deffo :p
 

Oppy

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Oh - good point :p

Go for 20oz, sod the extra weight, go for the extra CO2 capacity.

BUT... it depends on what your going to use it for ie running around the wood or going on Rec days etc.

But i would still recommend buying air if its an option where you live for refills.
 

Gyroscope

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Yes. A lot of people use them for a while, then go back to the old tank on gun config.

CO2 is ok, considering the initial savings. If you keep playing long enough, I predict you will want to use compressed air/ N2 (same tanks). But there is so much money to lay out at first, that I can understand someone wanting to go with CO2.

That said, there are two things I would recommend: go with a 20 oz, and get an anti-siphon line installed. The 20 oz tank is not all that big in comparisn to compressed air tanks, and you will have a lot more shots per tank. The main advantage of CO2, IMO, is that you get more shots than with compressed air. I say make the most of that advantage. The disadvantage is that CO2 is far less consistent in the velocity you get at the chronograph. That is part of the reason for the anti-siphon. This is a tube installed inside the tank that sticks up out of the liquid part of the CO2. It must be installed to suit the individual bottom line adapter, since the threads on each adapter start in a slightly different place. Liquid CO2 entering the gun can damage orings by making them swell. When they do, they might not fit where they are supposed to, and they can get chipped by the surrounding parts. Also, liquid CO2 will want to evaporate, which will pull heat from the body of the gun and make it get all frosty, which is uncomfortable. If part of the CO2 in a shot is in liquid form, the rapid change in volume as it turns into a gas makes velocities really inconsistent.

If you use a remote hose, you wouldn'tneed to worry about an anti-siphon.

CO2 will not form a liquid at atmospheric pressure, but inside a pressure vessel, it will. When released, it will expa rapidly, but to change into a gas, it takes heat from the surrounding environment. Usually, this means that the tank forms droplets of condensation and frost as it cools. Don't put a neoprene sleeve on your tank, since this keeps the tank from warming up from exposure to the air around it.
 

joeyarmstrong

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yes mate air is alot better but if you dont have that option id go for the 12oz personally.

i had a 20oz before i switched to air and got over 800shots from that,pointless as i would never shoot over 400per game.

you will need to refil a 12oz bottle more often but often sites do it for free as they use it themselves. even if they do charge you it should be no more than 1quid.

1quid for a fill of co2 V.S a couple of quid for air(and air gives you less shots per same size bottle)

youll be fine running co2 if you get it anti siphoned,just make sure you try and warm the bottle with your hand inbetween games, and the bits that get cold ie asa.
 
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TendringLOEB

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IMO the 12oz tank would be preferable, a HPA system even more so, but nonetheless, i find that 12oz bottles due to their reduced width and increased length fit much more comfortably and ergonomically under or inside my arm, therefore enabling me to play tighter which is advantageous.

as for number of shots, you will have more than enough for a couple of games and then to get it refilled at a walkon day. You can rent co2 cylinders from BOC but this is generally expensive and only worthwhile if you and a few mates club together to pay for it, fill stations are widely available, prices between 20-40 pounds per adapter.

Paul :)