Help from french people needed...

[Fab81]

Originally posted by spyderflashlcd23
a wall is something that is built above the ground to stop people from going somewhere?

NO??(sarcastic for all you French people that dont understand, jokes)

Yes that its a wall, but do you really think that a series of bunker is a wall?

Anyway if you want to call it a wall, call it a wall, end of the story.

 

[JoseDominguez]

Yes, but when America gets outflanked it's to give the other side a sporting chance......... like a 3 point head start, the french did it cos of stupidity. (I'm English by the way, so that's an impartial view on American war superiority).

Quote:well anyone with common sense would think that Germans are traveling our way through Belgium for a reason and you got attacked in WW1 so you must of had to be prepared, especially when the marched into POLAND man all you had was something that represents a wall (probally not as good though as French people built it, and what is with the shape of your bread do you hane long rectangle shaped ovens?)

Er?? we didn't need a wall, we've got the North Sea.
As for the bread, well, ours doesn't look like a penis, so I win.

 

[Beaker]

err.....

As much as it pains me to say it - but the french dude is right

If you are honestly trying to call the Maginot line a wall then you obviosuly have absolutely NO idea what it actually is.

And while we win on the look of the bread - at least theirs actually has taste and texture and we are more than happy to copy it for our subs so I'd skirt round that one too.

 

[spyderflashlcd23]

aint a bunker better than a wall that just means that when the french gotwiped out it must have been even more embarresing

well i am going to leave this debate now as i dont want to try and upset anybody

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by Beaker
err.....

As much as it pains me to say it - but the french dude is right

If you are honestly trying to call the Maginot line a wall then you obviosuly have absolutely NO idea what it actually is.

And while we win on the look of the bread - at least theirs actually has taste and texture and we are more than happy to copy it for our subs so I'd skirt round that one too.

Glad you can call a spade a spade. Our bread may not (usually) be phallic-shaped but it's not really bread. Two things that are missing from typical American grocery stores: bread and cheese. It just don't exist compared to European grocery stores. Same thing with beer. You have to buy micro-brewery stuff to get anything that isn't alcoholic slightly-colored spring water. Best to avoid doing any bragging or down-putting in these areas.

Where we rule is in the sheer variety of fast-food and medium-priced restaurants. (It shows too!).

We've made our share of military blunders but we've never really had to pay the price for them like the French. Don't you think the French regret like hell their blunders against the Nazis? Since then they've had to put up for decades with Brit and Yank "heroes" that visit their country and expect every shop-keeper to instantly understand English without the politeness to even say bonjour or ask if they speak English.

Fortunately for us the newest French generation is coming around to learning English and recognizing it as the lingua franca of international communication. Just look at FaceFull.

Does it show that I'm married to a French girl? She's holding a gun to my head.

Steve

 

[Fab81]

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
Yes, but when America gets outflanked it's to give the other side a sporting chance......... like a 3 point head start, the french did it cos of stupidity. (I'm English by the way, so that's an impartial view on American war superiority).

Quote:well anyone with common sense would think that Germans are traveling our way through Belgium for a reason and you got attacked in WW1 so you must of had to be prepared, especially when the marched into POLAND man all you had was something that represents a wall (probally not as good though as French people built it, and what is with the shape of your bread do you hane long rectangle shaped ovens?)

Er?? we didn't need a wall, we've got the North Sea.
As for the bread, well, ours doesn't look like a penis, so I win.

Hey, anyway its history, its always easier to judge after facts, even if mistakes have been done.

I don't know what's your point is, anyway I will not answer you anymore, it seems to be a more intelligent way...

 

[Fab81]

Originally posted by Wadidiz

Fortunately for us the newest French generation is coming around to learning English and recognizing it as the lingua franca of international communication. Just look at FaceFull.

Does it show that I'm married to a French girl? She's holding a gun to my head.

Steve

Hehe, unfortunately, I think that foreign languages have not enough importance in France, and we are really bad at speaking them when I see northener people like swedish or dutch talking at least 2 or 3 languages.

 

[joe bob]

I went to Paris once, it was really cold and rainy. the orange duck sauce tasted nasty and i was forced to go on tour boats, so I just slept. The Ice cream comercials were pretty cool though

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by joe bob
I went to Paris once, it was really cold and rainy. the orange duck sauce tasted nasty and i was forced to go on tour boats, so I just slept. The Ice cream comercials were pretty cool though

That sort of says it all (even more than Jay Leno) about the state of American youth. How embarrassing.

Steve

 

[Buddha 3]

Okay, time for the resident modern history buff to kick in again.

The Maginot line was a series of defense works which for about 80% were underground. The only bits sticking out were firing slits, and gun turrets. Hardly a wall I'd say. And yes, it was a mistake to only have it running from around the Swiss border, and end at where the French/Belgian border began. But this was hardly because they were lax. The Maginot line was constructed even before uncle Adolf came to power, and the French had close ties to the Belgians, whom would not be very happy if all of a sudden they saw massive fortifications spring up on their borders. Kinda like saying "yeah I like you, but I'll just unroll this barbed wire between our two backyards". Just doesn't work that way. The Maginot line as it was, was such a formidable obstacle, that the one army who did have to attack it (the US), suffered terrible casualties, and they attacked it from the rear!!!
If you want to talk about acts of senseless sacrifice, then don't forget about Market Garden, or the US campaign in the Huertgen forest, 24.000 casualties over a piece of real estate that was strategically worthless. The reason the French gave up as quick as they did, with the bulk of the French army not yet engaged, is because the French still had the Great War in their minds, and were not ready to make such sacrifices again. The Germans were, for a number of reasons. National socialism had imbued them with a sence of vengeance on the French, and the German population at that time procreated faster then the French. In other words, the Germans recovered quicker from the terrible slaughter of the Great War than the French did. If the French were to take such casualties again, it would more or less annihilate the country. It ain't just about who's got the biggest tanks, because at that time German tank design seriously lagged behind allied tank design (a situation completely reversed from 1943 onwards).