Anyone know why Dynasty chose not to play on Team USA? Was it because the players jerseys had Stranges sponsors printed on them?
No Dynasty in X-ball!
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They were given the opportunity to play it in the end. I know all about the confusion of who would captain Team USA, I know Dynasty got f####d at a time, but in the end (as far as I know) they were going to play under Stranges captaincy. So I´m only asking why they did not play?
They were given the opportunity to play it in the end. I know all about the confusion of who would captain Team USA, I know Dynasty got f####d at a time, but in the end (as far as I know) they were going to play under Stranges captaincy. So I´m only asking why they did not play?
As you obviously know, Dynasty were told they were going to represent the US, then they were told they weren't, and then they were told they could co-represent the US along with Strange.
Rodney and the rest of the guys on the team felt they had been butt-f##ked up enough and said, 'enough is enough' and decided to concentrate on winning the real event, which they did.
The real question now remains is this, will it survive ?
Rodney and the rest of the guys on the team felt they had been butt-f##ked up enough and said, 'enough is enough' and decided to concentrate on winning the real event, which they did.
The real question now remains is this, will it survive ?
Ok!
Thanks for the clarification. I absolutely believe that the euro X will survive. However I think that the US version will soon face big problems if they keep the current format. The fact that the players cannot play any other events is just gonna get to them I think. I for one would love to play paintball for free, but not to any price. As it is now the players can only partake in seven events per year as opposed to the maybee 12 they played before the X came about. They are used to go across to Europe maybee four times a year, and this year they can only go to Toulouse. I think many players will start raising their voice about this, and they better change the ruling about this or I think the league will be dead soon.
Thanks for the clarification. I absolutely believe that the euro X will survive. However I think that the US version will soon face big problems if they keep the current format. The fact that the players cannot play any other events is just gonna get to them I think. I for one would love to play paintball for free, but not to any price. As it is now the players can only partake in seven events per year as opposed to the maybee 12 they played before the X came about. They are used to go across to Europe maybee four times a year, and this year they can only go to Toulouse. I think many players will start raising their voice about this, and they better change the ruling about this or I think the league will be dead soon.
Crazzzy, X-Ball stateside has fracture lines forming in two distinct areas, firstly, financial and secondly internal, that of the player’s dissatisfaction as you just hinted.
There is no way Stateside X-Ball can be sustained if TV does not come on board very quickly.
The host 10 man tournament series (PSP) is to an extent underwriting the expense exposure of running X-Ball, if the PSP 10 man series is being compromised in any way, then inevitably it will undermine X-Ball's survival chances.
Already, the PSP are in debt after splashing out $40k at Mardi Gras for emergency reparations after the flood, and losing a reported $40-50 k at LA.
This situation cannot and will not continue.
The fate of US X-Ball hangs uneasily on these financial threads.
Running alongside this fracture line is the situation regarding the players.
Now I know most of the guys who are playing US X-Ball and talk to many of them, it is obvious to me they are not pleased with the current state of affairs, they see Oli, Alex, Ryan and Co swanning round the globe, getting all the exposure, getting all the cash and having a heck of a time on the Euro scene as well as The Super 7's and all the time they have to ply their trade at the PSP events....the PSP events are not even in the same league as the super 7's or Millenniums.
Now as the season progresses, it is obvious that half of the teams in US X-Ball are playing for no other reason than to play. They can't win fack all coz this is a year long league and a significant number of those teams are not going to qualify for Oralndo.
And so, they have nothing to play for half the frikkin season, so what’s the point for them ?
Now I know this ain’t an absolute but it is a general observation.
And you have to remember in all this, the fate of Euro X-Ball is inextricably linked to that of the US's.
And what do we do at our first opportunity to run X-Ball ?
Well, we facked it right up...big time !
And that's why I ask the question, is Euro X-Ball going to survive ?
There is no way Stateside X-Ball can be sustained if TV does not come on board very quickly.
The host 10 man tournament series (PSP) is to an extent underwriting the expense exposure of running X-Ball, if the PSP 10 man series is being compromised in any way, then inevitably it will undermine X-Ball's survival chances.
Already, the PSP are in debt after splashing out $40k at Mardi Gras for emergency reparations after the flood, and losing a reported $40-50 k at LA.
This situation cannot and will not continue.
The fate of US X-Ball hangs uneasily on these financial threads.
Running alongside this fracture line is the situation regarding the players.
Now I know most of the guys who are playing US X-Ball and talk to many of them, it is obvious to me they are not pleased with the current state of affairs, they see Oli, Alex, Ryan and Co swanning round the globe, getting all the exposure, getting all the cash and having a heck of a time on the Euro scene as well as The Super 7's and all the time they have to ply their trade at the PSP events....the PSP events are not even in the same league as the super 7's or Millenniums.
Now as the season progresses, it is obvious that half of the teams in US X-Ball are playing for no other reason than to play. They can't win fack all coz this is a year long league and a significant number of those teams are not going to qualify for Oralndo.
And so, they have nothing to play for half the frikkin season, so what’s the point for them ?
Now I know this ain’t an absolute but it is a general observation.
And you have to remember in all this, the fate of Euro X-Ball is inextricably linked to that of the US's.
And what do we do at our first opportunity to run X-Ball ?
Well, we facked it right up...big time !
And that's why I ask the question, is Euro X-Ball going to survive ?
Well, I agree in most that you are saying here, but are on a different opinion on the Euro X. I think that it can survive simply because it could be seen as a year long nations cup which is a both fun and entertaining part of the already succesful series, much like the old nations cup in Portugal, but now on a year long basis. The Euro X have, for obvious reasons, no rules regarding where players can play and cannot, something that I feel the US version will face big problems with soon.
I totally agree with you on the fact that players in the US will get outright bored with having nothing to play for. When I go to an event I have a goal, and that is to win and get up on the podium. As you are saying, half of the teams have nothing to play for and will therefore not be on the podium by the end of the year. Add to this is that in X you don´t have a winner at each event. The only thing they do is go home and feel good about having beat maybee three teams. Personally I really like when each event has a winner, when that winner is cheered on by the crowd and get all the attention and media publicity. It can not be as fun to never have a chance to be a winner, other than at the last tournament.
I believe that the US X should change their format so that each tournament was a small tournament in itself, with a winner at each leg. That would keep alot of X players happy I think.
I totally agree with you on the fact that players in the US will get outright bored with having nothing to play for. When I go to an event I have a goal, and that is to win and get up on the podium. As you are saying, half of the teams have nothing to play for and will therefore not be on the podium by the end of the year. Add to this is that in X you don´t have a winner at each event. The only thing they do is go home and feel good about having beat maybee three teams. Personally I really like when each event has a winner, when that winner is cheered on by the crowd and get all the attention and media publicity. It can not be as fun to never have a chance to be a winner, other than at the last tournament.
I believe that the US X should change their format so that each tournament was a small tournament in itself, with a winner at each leg. That would keep alot of X players happy I think.
Crazzy, I think(with no disrespect intended) you are missing the point here with regard to Euro X-Ball.
Euro X-Ball just cannot survive without US X-Ball, no argument !
Sure we can run some Nation's based formatted X-Ball but it is not representative of the rest of the game being played in tournaments worldwide.
The only reason paintball compromised this point was the new format of X-ball promised so much when it came to potential TV uptake.
You don't invent a new format just for the sake of it, especially when the rest of the players are playing something else.
The trickle-down effect of any potential TV uptake was seen to be the answer in that, if and when TV begun airing US X-Ball, this income would then subsequently finance the overall change of tournament paintball.
This same philosophy was being accepted over here.
Laurent and the other owners of Euro X-ball have already secured a negotiated income stream based upon the US uptake and therefore any non representation issues of X-Ball, in relation to what the rest of teams were playing, is something that could be dealt with somewhere down the line.
No, I'm afraid X-Ball in Europe is unsustainable if the US half of the equation disintegrates, the sponsor packages, industry, and certainly the promoters won't wanna delve too deep into their own pockets to emulate the US in the way they have backed X-Ball, we were always gonna play second fiddle to the Yanks in this and in the end, we just didn't have the people necessary to give ourselves a real chance.
Euro X-Ball just cannot survive without US X-Ball, no argument !
Sure we can run some Nation's based formatted X-Ball but it is not representative of the rest of the game being played in tournaments worldwide.
The only reason paintball compromised this point was the new format of X-ball promised so much when it came to potential TV uptake.
You don't invent a new format just for the sake of it, especially when the rest of the players are playing something else.
The trickle-down effect of any potential TV uptake was seen to be the answer in that, if and when TV begun airing US X-Ball, this income would then subsequently finance the overall change of tournament paintball.
This same philosophy was being accepted over here.
Laurent and the other owners of Euro X-ball have already secured a negotiated income stream based upon the US uptake and therefore any non representation issues of X-Ball, in relation to what the rest of teams were playing, is something that could be dealt with somewhere down the line.
No, I'm afraid X-Ball in Europe is unsustainable if the US half of the equation disintegrates, the sponsor packages, industry, and certainly the promoters won't wanna delve too deep into their own pockets to emulate the US in the way they have backed X-Ball, we were always gonna play second fiddle to the Yanks in this and in the end, we just didn't have the people necessary to give ourselves a real chance.
That is probably true, we can not survive without the US X. Therefore I hope they change the format in the states so that it will survive. Anyone have any indications that they are changing their ruling in this regard? I have heared rumours, and those could well be just that, rumours, that one team are pissed of with the whole thing and want out of X-ball.