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agge

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It was definitely on last night at 20:00 in sweden at least cus my whife watched it! I had to do an extra shift at work so missed out but im happy i did! Not happy to miss the show but happy to get my whifes opinion after watching it without me sitting beside and explaining things. What she said when i got home and asked if she watched "my "show was quite interresting.

First thing she mentioned was that it sukced! Now, shes only been to one tournament a long time ago but knows a bit bout how its being played etc. I asked her why it sukced and she went on to say that it only showed some small short clips of people hiding, shooting, diving and yelling accompanied by some lame commentary of which she understood nothing, some lame music which just made it all look a bit "nerdy" as she put it. She said she didnt understand jack **** of what was going on, only that she was watching some quarterfinals but of the games she didnt get a thing (ever heared this before from non paintball players???) I asked her what had to be done for non playing viewers to understand it and she started to think. I explained that ive always thought that paintball can never make it on TV because there is no focal point like football for instance for the cameras to focus on. She agreed. She then said that this show is for paintballers ONLY, there is no way in hell non players can ever enjoy the show simply cus theyre watching some short clips of players sliding, shooting at who knows?, yelling at well, who knows??? It was just all confusing...

To me this was my final proof that paintball on tv will never hit it. Ive never been told the opinions face to face by a non playing person who have watched a paintball show on tv.

Ill watch the reruns of the show and it´ll be real interresting to see if i end up with the same opinion as hers, but as a matter of fact it matters ****! Her opinion is what matters, after all shes the no playing audience, and after all shes the whife so her opinion should matter more anyways :D
 
It was definitely on last night at 20:00 in sweden at least cus my whife watched it! I had to do an extra shift at work so missed out but im happy i did! Not happy to miss the show but happy to get my whifes opinion after watching it without me sitting beside and explaining things. What she said when i got home and asked if she watched "my "show was quite interresting.

First thing she mentioned was that it sukced! Now, shes only been to one tournament a long time ago but knows a bit bout how its being played etc. I asked her why it sukced and she went on to say that it only showed some small short clips of people hiding, shooting, diving and yelling accompanied by some lame commentary of which she understood nothing, some lame music which just made it all look a bit "nerdy" as she put it. She said she didnt understand jack **** of what was going on, only that she was watching some quarterfinals but of the games she didnt get a thing (ever heared this before from non paintball players???) I asked her what had to be done for non playing viewers to understand it and she started to think. I explained that ive always thought that paintball can never make it on TV because there is no focal point like football for instance for the cameras to focus on. She agreed. She then said that this show is for paintballers ONLY, there is no way in hell non players can ever enjoy the show simply cus theyre watching some short clips of players sliding, shooting at who knows?, yelling at well, who knows??? It was just all confusing...

To me this was my final proof that paintball on tv will never hit it. Ive never been told the opinions face to face by a non playing person who have watched a paintball show on tv.

Ill watch the reruns of the show and it´ll be real interresting to see if i end up with the same opinion as hers, but as a matter of fact it matters ****! Her opinion is what matters, after all shes the no playing audience, and after all shes the whife so her opinion should matter more anyways :D
Thing is Agge, i highly doubt that your wife is in the target market for a show like this. We already know as a whole that this sport isnt for everyone, even more so when it's shown on TV.

Yes paintball is hard to film and to get right, but that doesnt mean it is all doom and gloom. Nobody is resting there hopes on TV being the saviour of paintball anymore, even the Millenium seem to be looking at it in a more reasonable way.
This sort of filming and publicity however small HAS to be a good thing for our sport and i am positive that it can only help to highten interest on a tournament side that has very little understanding to the outside world. I just watched a clip of the show and was thouroughly impressed with the professional presentation and content, especially considering it is a first run.
I hope someone records a better version and gets it online..
For the time being, make you own mind up :) http://www.stickam.com/viewMedia.do?mId=182023705
 

agge

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I agree tommy, shes definitely not the target market but she represent the outside world and even if she understand paintball (shes watched some dvd.s before and living with me for 10+ years having had it all explained time and time again) she didnt understand what was going on (even if she knew what was going on with her knowledge of the sport....)...
I hope i will be proven wrong one day that paintball can make it on tv, but i highly doubt it!

Your mentioning that the Millennium is looking at tv in a different way nowadays. I doubt though that they will be satisfied if non paintball players dont understand the show!
 

Robbo

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Tommy, I gotta go with Agge here and here are my reasons; a lot of people get carried away with the idea of paintball on TV because they can't disentangle their own feelings of the game from how they see others reacting to it, basically your own enthusiasm clouds the reality of what's really going on.
An awful lot of people have succumbed to this Tommy, so you are not alone mate.
But if you need proof, or rather evidence from outside the box, think of it this way, in the US, any cr@p can get on TV, and I mean any cr@p.

From synchronised swimming, to spelling competitions, to chopping a bit of wood, burger eating, the mindless list of ridiculous pursuits goes on forever seemingly....
My point being, it doesn't have to be all that good for the American public to embrace it, in fact, inane sh!t can grab and maintain the attention of a significant US viewing demographic.
That said, I think we can all agree that if we were to assess which continent, Europe or the US, was more likely to be successful in putting paintball on TV, then you'd have to be clinically sub-normal to think it was gonna be anyone other than the Yanks.

There have been untold millions been stuffed into getting paintball on TV in the US and every single endeavor has failed, miserably.
That's every single one Tommy ...none of them got even close to making it work.

Now, there is only one logical conclusion you can come to after acknowledging all that I have said thus far, and that is, it ain't gonna work over here in Europe if it don't work in the US ...and it failed mate.

And this whole failure is predicated on paintball's one fatal flaw ..... there is no focus for the viewer to engage ... and as such, the game becomes a blur of seemingly unrelated shots of clowns sitting behind multi-coloured, inflated pillows, firing blobs of paint at who knows what. .... it's a visual mess with no thread for the uninformed.

I wish it were different but it's not ... it's the truth of the matter, and it's a truth that has been shown to us time and time again and has cost us millions already for the privilege.

Game's over mate, 'paintball on tv' is alive and well and resident in the dead-box :(
 

Matski

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I remember seeing Ledz et al play paintball-football on Bravo? That was easy to understand, apart from the paintball part.
 

Robbo

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I was lucky / unlucky enough to be involved in the first televised event in the US when I was playing for the All Americans in 94/95 and we played it in an orange grove in Florida that was owned by Disney.
Bunkers were basically doors and half doors on a field that was about 150 feet by about 100.
When my parents asked to see a vid of the event, I was too embarrassed to show them.... to a lesser or greater degree, every subsequent TV initiative has elicited the same reaction.