Air at home

[wwwbgoddardcouk]

Hi I am thinking or buying a tank for practice at home there will be 3 of us using it but unfortunately I will be paying. I have looked a dive tanks and think I know what I am looking for.

I guess I would be after a 12ltr 300 tank in test but can someone advise an what type of regulator I will need? I am based in Whitstable kent (Canterbury area) and I am also looking for somewhere to fill it too? Any help would be great?

Cheers

 

[jfp]

By regulator do you mean adapter to allow you to fill paintball bottles from the dive tank?

 

[wwwbgoddardcouk]

By regulator do you mean adapter to allow you to fill paintball bottles from the dive tank?

er yeah? sorry not sure of sizes ect?

 

[Pandamonium]

there's two types of adapters from either a "land" (my way of wording it) or an underwater reg. I imagine both can be bought for new in the uk easily and at least one is at RAP4. on a separate note. I am selling a dive tank which has literally come back from a test (has the underwater reg). I am part of the UWE paintball society and we use dive tanks for our weekly reball training. if you need any more info. (or want to buy my tank and collect it from bristol then rock and roll)

 

[wwwbgoddardcouk]

there's two types of adapters from either a "land" (my way of wording it) or an underwater reg. I imagine both can be bought for new in the uk easily and at least one is at RAP4. on a separate note. I am selling a dive tank which has literally come back from a test (has the underwater reg). I am part of the UWE paintball society and we use dive tanks for our weekly reball training. if you need any more info. (or want to buy my tank and collect it from bristol then rock and roll)

Thanks but Bristol is a bit far. I would collect from London at the right price. To be honest this is more of an info mission before I buy.
Cheers though

 

[jfp]

So the dive tank will either have a din adapter or a clamp (if it's a 300 bar I believe it's uses din only. Once that you know what one you are getting you just need to buy a paintball adapter with that fitting (or get one made) you just need to ensure you have purge mechanism so that once you have finished filling you can purge the line and detach the paintball bottle from the tank. If it would help I can pop some pictures up of my rig with some really bad paint annotations to explain it better?

 

[wwwbgoddardcouk]

So the dive tank will either have a din adapter or a clamp (if it's a 300 bar I believe it's uses din only. Once that you know what one you are getting you just need to buy a paintball adapter with that fitting (or get one made) you just need to ensure you have purge mechanism so that once you have finished filling you can purge the line and detach the paintball bottle from the tank. If it would help I can pop some pictures up of my rig with some really bad paint annotations to explain it better?

i think i get it but if you get time pics would be great thanks?

 

[Tom]

Firstly think twice about what you are doing - for 'practice at home' I read 'playing paintball offsite'
Consider the land available to you as to whether it is safe, legal (no shooting within a specified distance from roads) and won't get complaints from the neighbours
You could opt for some extra paintball cylinders (only about £30 each) and fill when you're at sites

For a scuba fill system you need:

Scuba cylinder - note that 3000psi is 206 bar, 4500psi is 310bar
A cylinder capable of 4500psi fills will cost more £s

Be aware of 'land only' scuba systems, these have a different regulator to prevent use in diving
The advantage of this for a fill system is that scuba cylinders have a slightly stricter testing regime. Even if you are using a dive cylinder for paintball fills no-one will fill it without complying with the test regime

You then need a paintball fill rig to go between the scuba cylinder and the paintball cylinder fill nipple

Everything you need is here:
http://www.lips-paintball.com/acatalog/300bar-12ltr-Dive-Tank-with-INTEGRAL-FILL-STATION--221.html#.UlfBPpm9LCQ

Going back to pressure options of 3000psi and 4500psi
You will only get one fill to full pressure, the scuba pressure goes down, the next fill is slightly less and so on
Restrict your fills at the start and you get consistent and many more fills.
Take a 232 bar cylinder. Don't fill to 3000psi, stop somewhere between 2000 and 2500psi
Take a 300 bar cylinder and fill to 3000psi
http://www.scubatoys.com/paintball/scubafills2.asp

Before you use a scuba fill rig get shown how to use it properly and safely
As a minimum get a general air safety brief first, eg an air pass session and read the ukpsf hpa 1 handout

http://www.oaklandsfestival.host56.com/web_documents/air information.pdf

http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/a-bit-of-info-the-the-experts.145017/

 

[Tom]

Ps - I forgot:
Don't forget transportation:
You need to get the cylinder filled, it's big and heavy, it needs to be secure, you need to display the green compressed cylinder sign when carrying (and don't display when not carrying)
The sign may not always be a legal requirement (private cars) but it's information for the emergency services if there is an accident. My friendly neighborhood fireman wants paintballers to display when carrying a paintball cylinder - even if empty, if he comes to cut you out of your car and spots a cylinder he will step back and rethink his tactics, if he sees the sign he approaches pre warned and ready

 

[wwwbgoddardcouk]

Firstly think twice about what you are doing - for 'practice at home' I read 'playing paintball offsite'
Consider the land available to you as to whether it is safe, legal (no shooting within a specified distance from roads) and won't get complaints from the neighbours
You could opt for some extra paintball cylinders (only about £30 each) and fill when you're at sites

For a scuba fill system you need:

Scuba cylinder - note that 3000psi is 206 bar, 4500psi is 310bar
A cylinder capable of 4500psi fills will cost more £s

Be aware of 'land only' scuba systems, these have a different regulator to prevent use in diving
The advantage of this for a fill system is that scuba cylinders have a slightly stricter testing regime. Even if you are using a dive cylinder for paintball fills no-one will fill it without complying with the test regime

You then need a paintball fill rig to go between the scuba cylinder and the paintball cylinder fill nipple

Everything you need is here:
http://www.lips-paintball.com/acatalog/300bar-12ltr-Dive-Tank-with-INTEGRAL-FILL-STATION--221.html#.UlfBPpm9LCQ

Going back to pressure options of 3000psi and 4500psi
You will only get one fill to full pressure, the scuba pressure goes down, the next fill is slightly less and so on
Restrict your fills at the start and you get consistent and many more fills.
Take a 232 bar cylinder. Don't fill to 3000psi, stop somewhere between 2000 and 2500psi
Take a 300 bar cylinder and fill to 3000psi
http://www.scubatoys.com/paintball/scubafills2.asp

Before you use a scuba fill rig get shown how to use it properly and safely
As a minimum get a general air safety brief first, eg an air pass session and read the ukpsf hpa 1 handout

http://www.oaklandsfestival.host56.com/web_documents/air information.pdf

http://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/a-bit-of-info-the-the-experts.145017/

That's great thanks, just a couple more questions on this. How can you tell the difference between a land only tank and a diving tank? And what is the test intervals if I were to buy the diving tank. Any clues where I could fill it too? thanks again